'Stronger than people appreciate'

WASHINGTON - Outgoing Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner thinks the U.S. economy will strengthen this year - as long as Congress avoids cutting spending too deeply in a budget deal and Europe's economy gradually improves.

In an interview Friday on his last day in office, Geithner told The Associated Press, "The economy is stronger than people appreciate."

He said he agrees with many private forecasters that growth will accelerate this year, in part because the U.S. economy is no longer being held back by oil shocks and Europe's debt crisis has subsided.

Asked about his future, Geithner ruled out the possibility that he would return to Washington as chairman of the Federal Reserve next year, when Ben Bernanke's term ends, if asked by President Barack Obama.

Geithner has been viewed as among the front-runners for the Fed job. He has been close to Obama, and before joining Obama's Cabinet as Treasury secretary, he had led the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

"There are lots of people more qualified than me," Geithner said.

Obama last week nominated Jack Lew, his chief of staff and formerly the White House budget director, to succeed Geithner as Treasury secretary. Lew's nomination is expected to win quick approval in the Senate.

Geithner was the last remaining original economic advisor to Obama. He served during a turbulent four years in which the administration had to confront the worst U.S. economic and financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

In a wide-ranging interview, Geithner made these other points:

- A move by House leaders to postpone a deadline for raising the government's borrowing limit for nearly four months is encouraging. But it must be followed by action to remove the threat of a first-ever U.S. government default from budget talks. "It's just a simple rule of negotiating: If your threat is something that you can never carry out because default is unthinkable, then it doesn't give you any leverage," Geithner said.

- A permanent solution for beleaguered mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which the government took over in 2008, might not be achieved before Obama leaves office. Geithner said it could take three to five years to reduce the dominant role the two companies play in mortgage financing to the point where their role could be handled by some new enterprise Congress might decide to create. He said that time should be used for a debate over what Fannie's and Freddie's future should be.

- The Dodd-Frank Act, the sweeping financial overhaul Congress passed in 2010, won't be overturned, even though Republicans and many in the financial services industry want to weaken or kill it. Geithner said Dodd-Frank emerged from Congress "more messy and with more complexity than was necessary." But he added, "I don't think they will be able to undo the core reforms we put in place because they make a lot of economic sense for the country."

- He defended the actions he helped take to bail out large banks and stabilize the financial system but said he could probably never win over skeptics: "It is very hard to convince people or make credible to people the risks that we were living with at that time. That we could have had a much deeper collapse of not just the U.S. economy but the global economy."

Geithner said he had no immediate plans other than to take a trip with his wife and to use the rod and reel given to him by Treasury colleagues as a parting gift.

"I am definitely learning how to fly-fish," he said.